So Rude

[Claire ex-ax]

Godwin's *sigh*

[ReverendJay]

While I understand India's bitterness towards Britain, from your posts GnR, you have a major chip on your shoulder.

[jgl]

Besides this is a hypothetical situation of Hitler winning the war.

Claire- you beat me to it by minutes

Bravo Guns- you can always rely on someone providing furthery support for Godwin's Law.

There's nothing like comparing people to Hitler that helps further sensible discussion

[hullexile]

1. What happened in Russia, was because of Hitler's own arrogance and stupidity, else when they started out, they started out as allies. Brits did manage to hold them off for a bit, but, it was clear that without American's help they'd have lost sooner. (Mind Indian soldiers fought side-by-side with Brits war against Germans and Japanese, though before going to the war all the national leader were of opinion that we should blackmail Brits for giving independance in exchange of Indian soldiers fighting this war with Brits, but, Gandhi interfered and said this is not the time to make such demands)

2. German scientists were making loads of discoveries in all branches of science, so its generally believed they were advanced and if not for Einstien who migrated to USA, atom bomb would have been in the wrong hands of Hitler.

Besides this is a hypothetical situation of Hitler winning the war.

As for as I am concerned any force occupatant is as bad as the other. Hitler's atrocities are much more known worldwide today, because he did it in today's times and had a bad PR, and that's why he's hated so much.
You can't ever forget what he did then how could we...?

Whatever the reasons for Russia's involvement, the sacrifice of the Russian people was arguably the major reason for Hitler's downfall not the Americans.

"It is generally believed they were more advanced". Don't think so. Evidence? Yes towards the end of the war they made discoveries in missiles but that was late on. Generally I would argue they were no more advanced - what advancements would they have brought to the UK through occupation? Britain brought railways, other infrastructure, legal and bureaucratic systems.

I am not defending the British occupation of India in any way but really you need to get your facts straight.

[Skyhook]

While I understand India's bitterness towards Britain, from your posts GnR, you have a major chip on your shoulder.

I wonder if it's the same chip on the shoulder that a percentage of Indians ( from India, non British raised ) who seem to be not impressed with the movie, Slum Dog Millionaire ?

It seems that, if you ask an Indian from India, Slum Dog Millionaire makes them out to be almost sub human, especially the early scenes of abject poverty, associated with Indian slums....

I thought the movie was brilliant by the way, having seen it a couple of nights ago, and it seems that most of the world agrees, or it wouldn't have won so many Oscar's, or is it sour grapes that it wasn't an Indian film maker, that got all the glory ? Who knows.

Gunsnroses probably agrees with Pavan's review > Features | HK-magazine.com

[jaykay]

Hitler's atrocities are much more known worldwide today, because he did it in today's times and had a bad PR, and that's why he's hated so much. You can't ever forget what he did then how could we...?

Unfortunately where that argument would fall down is in the fact that in even more recent times China has gone through the nightmare of Mao and what we know about this tyrant only scratches the surface.

[gunsnroses]

Gunsnroses probably agrees with Pavan's review > Features | HK-magazine.com

Not really, the only reason the movie didn't work for me was I have seen hundreds of such movies that have been made in the hindi film industry through out 70s and 80s. Also, the dark underbelly of Mumbai have also been shown many a times in 90s and in this century. So, besides the movie being in english it had no novelty for me. As far as the realisit cinema goes, there have been umpteen movies made in Hindi and other regional languages, its just that they don't get the right platform, so as to be visible for foreigners to watch them.

[gunsnroses]

Whatever the reasons for Russia's involvement, the sacrifice of the Russian people was arguably the major reason for Hitler's downfall not the Americans.

"It is generally believed they were more advanced". Don't think so. Evidence? Yes towards the end of the war they made discoveries in missiles but that was late on. Generally I would argue they were no more advanced - what advancements would they have brought to the UK through occupation? Britain brought railways, other infrastructure, legal and bureaucratic systems.

I am not defending the British occupation of India in any way but really you need to get your facts straight.

Hull, they may or may not have brought any good things to UK, who knows. As said before this is just a hypothetical scenario. You are missing the point here that I am trying to make.

[gunsnroses]

So now you are comparing Hitler, who murdered 6 million jews and committed various other atrocities to the Brits who came and founded a trading port in the barren rock that was HK?

Give me a break! Try getting out a little and looking at the rest of the world. You might learn something.

So Moving you are saying the killing 6 million jews was bad, but, killing less no of ppl was fine. Holier than thou, eh! You give me a break!!!

[shri]

It seems that, if you ask an Indian from India, Slum Dog Millionaire makes them out to be almost sub human, especially the early scenes of abject poverty, associated with Indian slums....

There are a lot of us who do think it is a brilliant movie.

By the way, closing this thread .. no clue how it went from someone whinging about an elevator to where it is in the last few posts...