Those darn mainlanders are at it again!

[virago]

Virago, let me make something very clear to you, since you clearly don't get it: I am not advocating Hkers should see mainlanders as locusts and mainlanders should see hkers as dogs. But that how is some people from community see each other. To deny that is to pretend this problem of prejudice dosen't exist.

So just face what? Face that you have repeatedly fail to understand my posts. Improve your reading comprehension please before mouthing off again and making yourself look even more foolish ?

Oh and by the way, your well-intentioned but sadly naive message will fall on deaf years for the locals and mainlanders alike. That is why I say there has to be some constructive solution.

I can only see it one way if the media continues to focus on these ill-conceived notions that mainlanders are here to take over their lives.

I am not really interested if HK'ers consider my approach is naive, I had enough of the racist remarks in the offices and on the streets in HK.

If you are after constructive solutions, get the media to focus on also happy stories about mainlanders. Anyway won't really happen as it's not sensational enough for the media to think it's newsworthy.

[MovingIn07]

the vast majority are relatively uneducated peasants. They were never taught how to behave in public nor do they have much of a notion of public decency. ..... The other problem is that "rich asshole" [] whose core value is that money means I can do whatever I want.

You just described HK'ers as well. Honestly - how can anyone who has been bumped in the street or witnessed toe-nail clipping on the MTR by locals take this thread seriously?

[dear giant]

A constructive solution that would actually reduce tensions would be a stepped reduction, over a period of a few years, in the number of Mainland visitors allowed into HK each month until arrivals declined to, say, 2004 levels. The reduction would give those businesses that had sprung up to serve Mainland tourists (and, by doing so, displaced businesses that served locals) time to pivot to serve the local market or shut down, landlords time to reduce rents in an orderly fashion, etc.

Obviously, the plan to allow Mainland drivers to invade HK roads would have to be scrapped. The practice of giving HK-born Mainland kids residency would have to be discontinued as well.

Basically, the colonization of HK by the Mainland would have to be slowed or stopped in order for normal HK people to stop freaking out.

All of this is unlikely to happen, of course.

[Fiona in HKG]

I know you see people spread out and what might look like a queue especially in Central area but it's deceiving. As soon as the tram arrives, it's every man for himself. You just have to shove yourself in or wait for the next one.

it's all about trying to work out where to stand for the next tram or the next next tram if the first one arriving isn't going to the location you wish to travel to - most of us make an approximation of the length of a tram, hoping the first one is the one we'll get on, and stand around that point. Some of us get tactical and work out the length plus separation distance of two trams and hope to be in a smaller queue to catch the second tram, basing it on odds that two often arrive together.

The Peak Tram is a whole different ball game. You have to work out when to pass through from the holding area to the platform so that you're not forced to go up to the front of the tram as the best views are had from the back of the tram if you stand behind the driver's seat and don't take a seat yourself. It can be quite tricky and timing is key so as not to be moved on once you have worked out the exact spot the back doors will open.

Multiple route bus stops....well they're in a league of their own

[shenwen]

on the mtr home today there was a schoolboy slurping juice out if a bottle. mainlander dressed in a local school uniform. obviously.

there was an opinion in today's scmp by alex lo. very sensible I thought.

[dear giant]

on the mtr home today there was a schoolboy slurping juice out if a bottle. mainlander dressed in a local school uniform. obviously.

there was an opinion in today's scmp by alex lo. very sensible I thought.

Well, there are tons of Mainland kids in HK schools. There's even a special channel for them at Lowu. Then, you've got the children whose fathers have succeeded in getting their mothers residency in HK. They are living here but marinated in Mainland ways at home by their mothers.

That being said, there are plenty of dyed-in-the-wool HKers who eat on the MTR and also more than a few expat munchers, as demonstrated by responses in a previous thread on this forum.

[drumbrake]

Some reasons why there are no queues at tram stops: Trams don't stop in the same position each time, especially when there are several trams stopped at the same time; the pavement at tram stops is very narrow - basically you want people to get on as fast as you can so that people have room to get off. Travelling by tram during rush hour is a nightmare; I don't go on them at those times. At other times it's a relaxing experience, and for short trips can be surprisingly fast.

[drumbrake]

That being said, there are plenty of dyed-in-the-wool HKers who eat on the MTR and also more than a few expat munchers, as demonstrated by responses in a previous thread on this forum.

I especially like the westerners who barge out of the MTR with their elbows flying into the face of those waiting for them to get off. Then, once they are on the escalator everyone has to move out of the way for them as their time is so important that they cannot be delayed by even 10 seconds. Then once they get on to the pavement...well we've had threads about this...

[dear giant]

I especially like the westerners who barge out of the MTR with their elbows flying into the face of those waiting for them to get off. Then, once they are on the escalator everyone has to move out of the way for them as their time is so important that they cannot be delayed by even 10 seconds. Then once they get on to the pavement...well we've had threads about this...

The arrows on the platform floor outside of every single MTR door are there for a reason. People stupid enough to stand smack dab on top of the exit arrow and then to try to barge in before passengers have finished getting off deserve what they get.

Not blocking the escalator, likewise, is a matter of common sense.

Regarding the sidewalk, if my wife and I can walk single file on narrow stretches of sidewalk and generally try to follow the flow of foot traffic in terms of which side of the sidewalk to walk on, then it's not unreasonable to expect others to be able to do the same.

[drumbrake]

Even when it's a mother holding the hand of a young child on an escalator?