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    no at the top will. few MPs will say their 2 pence worth but no one with any real power will say anything of substance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rakedavids:
    ec - do you honestly believe the Brits would have just sat back and accepted an invasion of HK by the Chinese.
    No the official British plan was to flee

    Let me google that for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by rakedavids:
    The election process what was decided at the NPC is much better than the status quo of what we have had in the past. Its not perfect but then again what elections are ?
    I strongly believe this is going to be ratified at LegCo...
    Having a debate on policies between two candidates from the same party will be off no use to Hong Kong.

    Imagine the below without Albert Ho..... (yes it probably would be better)

    At least the current process a pan dem can get a ticket to the stump.

    IN THE FUTURE ONLY THE PARTY MESSAGE WILL BE HEARD



    Ho brought a different (but blinkered view) to solve Hong Kong's governance issues
    Last edited by East_coast; 05-09-2014 at 06:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookblogger:
    East Coast is encouraging you to think on this point. If Britain had implemented democracy and full self-government in colonial Hong Kong (as it did in its other colonies in the 1950s and '60s), China would have invaded immediately to put a swift halt to Chinese people being freely elected on Chinese soil. It is a precedent they could not (and still cannot) allow.
    invading Hong Kong, like how your parents did? besides over 30% of the "local" population are born in the mainland. And every Chinese HongKonger has parents or grandparents who are 'mainlanders'
    'If Britain had implemented democracy and full self-government in colonial Hong Kong (as it did in its other colonies in the 1950s and '60s), China would have invaded immediately to put a swift halt to Chinese people being freely elected on Chinese soil.'
    utter bs, speculation, it is known and even said that the mere thought of allowing the 'little yellow' British subjects a right to vote to who will lead them, a complete joke. The ruling British colonists, decided who would lead the colony irrespective if the locals approved or not.
    now at least you have 2 or 3 candidates to whom you can vote for. you want cowboy candidates like long hair? or porn browsing while at work, Albert Hole ?
    "It is a precedent they could not (and still cannot) allow."
    They still cannot allow? understand something, HKG was the most profitable colony for Britain. they had long washed their hands of any responsibility to the locals, leaving them to fend for themselves to the commie owners after their term was up. despite all the superficial talk and signings. they can and will do nowt if it happened. FACT. Its been said "Richard Ottoway, head of the inquiry, says Beijing appears to have breached the joint declaration, but admits Britain is in no position, lets repeat that, Britain is no position to hit china with sanctions or any punishments."
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    do you prefer tomato or HP sauce to go with that chip on your shoulder?
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    Sorry you can't handle the truth, rocketifty! My point was a simple one and you have gone off on tangents instead of taking it in. The CCP will still do anything to avoid the precedent of Chinese people being elected on Chinese soil. Hence their firing rockets into the sea off Taiwan in an effort to undermine the first Taiwanese presidential election in 1996.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bookblogger:
    Sorry you can't handle the truth, rocketifty! My point was a simple one and you have gone off on tangents instead of taking it in. The CCP will still do anything to avoid the precedent of Chinese people being elected on Chinese soil. Hence their firing rockets into the sea off Taiwan in an effort to undermine the first Taiwanese presidential election in 1996.
    No you're the one who can't handle the truth bookblogger!
    invading Hong Kong, like how your parents did? besides over 30% of the "local" population are born in the mainland. And every Chinese HongKonger has parents or grandparents who are 'mainlanders'
    and “'If Britain had implemented democracy and full self-government in colonial Hong Kong (as it did in its other colonies in the 1950s and '60s), China would have invaded immediately to put a swift halt to Chinese people being freely elected on Chinese soil.' ”This is complete fantasy, Britain would never have let locals rule, selecting every Governor to rule Hong Kong. Anyone living in cloud cuckoo land thinks otherwise. Please do some reading, Democracy in Hong Kong was never Britain's concern, pre and post 1997 | South China Morning Post
    http://online.wsj.com/articles/britains-betrayal-of-hong-kong-1411403837
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/britain-must-speak-up-for-democrats-in-hong-kong-9576962.html
    and excellent post by Watercooler at http://hongkong.geoexpat.com/forum/342/thread287906.html
    I most certainly am not pro commie, but based on hongkong's past, it never once had democracy. Currently in 2017 Hong Kong gets to choose 3. you want a, at work, porn browsing albert hole or wild cowboy long hair? I can see you voting for them. God have mercy on hongkong's future if they come in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by christof1979:
    If the HongKong population is/was like the recent UK population of decades, it would never reach the pinnacles it has. According to Map: U.S. Ranks Near Bottom on Income Inequality - The Atlantic



    US, the embodiment of democracy, is ranked near the bottom in income equality. website states
    "Perhaps most damning is China, significantly more equal than the U.S. with a Gini coefficient of 0.415, where the severe income gap has been a source of worsening political instability for almost 20 years. "

    Do you want HongKong to have more equity in income via a benefits system as in UK? or "international standard"democracy as epitomised by US to reduce this iniquities, corruption and dissatisfaction with the government? LOL!
    such a clown, Benny Tai, one of the leaders of the pro democracy movement saying that the reason for fighting for democracy is it reduces the inequality we see today with the growing wealth gap in HK. now just where in world is it not? where in world are property prices, rents, everyday costs arent rising?

    well sorry to tell you, US, the democracy leader in world, has the largest wealth gap in world, and it's getting larger, oops
    BBC News - Janet Yellen warns on growing inequality in the US
    Yellen ‘Greatly’ Concerned by Widening Inequality in America - Bloomberg

    if this is the reason for fighting for democracy, you're a clown also.
    if the reason is to reduce corruption in the political leaders, you're also a clown.
    but hey? it's cool right?! clowns
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    Don't look at what is happening in Hong Kong, look at the US over there!

    The US has a wealth gap, so we must too, and we must not protest against it?

    Tioga = clown who has earned 50 cents

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